The Bar: Cardinals, Dodgers, and Painful Rooting Decisions

This is where we gather from time to time to talk about something big in the Padres world or just the Padres or just baseball. It’s a roundtable discussion. Except, you know, no round tables. This is a Public House . . . so we’re at the bar.


When the NLCS contestants were decided a couple of days ago our buddy BP tweeted the following:

This is an interesting quandary for Padres fans. On the one hand you’ve got the guys from the middle of the country who always seem to knock the Padres out of the playoffs and on the other hand you’ve got the jerks from up the street. So I proposed the following question to my Padres Public mates:

If you were forced to go out and purchase a Dodgers or Cardinals hat to wear for the next week which one would you buy and why? In short, who are you pulling for, if anyone at all?

Let’s settle this nonsense at the Bar . . .

Ghost of Ray Kroc

Well, I guess if I had to — and those were my only two choices — I’d get a Cardinals hat. Because 1) there is no way I would ever be caught dead (Pun intended) wearing Dodgers gear. Ever. Never. And 2) the Cardinals are the least douchebag-iest (patent pending) team left.

Like Geoff Coast Bias (patent pending) tweeted yesterday:

If I have to pick someone to root for, it’s probably going to be the Red Sox, because Jake Peavy.

Left Coast Bias

It’s the Cardinals. Without a doubt. There is probably not another professional sports franchise I despise more than the Dodgers. And that’s only been amped up 10 fold since they became the Yankees of the West. I can’t justify rooting for the Dodgers under any circumstance.

Even when they’re playing the Cardinals. Who I hate.

Go AL.

Padres Trail


Avenging Jack Murphy

Never, under any circumstance, would I purchase something that inferred my support for the city of Los Angeles. It would never happen for one simple reason: San Diego is my home.

Forced to purchase something in support of one of those two teams I’m going with the Cardinals all the way. The Padres have had their seasons ended in ’96, ’05, and ’06 at the hands of St. Louis yet I don’t feel any real antipathy toward the Cardinals. The best conversations I’ve ever had with opposing fans while at Petco have occurred with those who were visiting from the mid-west. The history is one-sided yet somehow I can live with St. Louis as they appear to be, pardon the cliche, an organization that does things the right way.

But here’s the real reason I’m rooting against the Dodgers (more so than rooting for the Cardinals) and why you should follow suit: If the Dodgers win the World Series, Petco Park will be the most unbearable place on Earth next season. The fans from LA, and worse, the ones from SD who claim Los Angeles, will amp-up their rude behavior in our home park. They will puff out their chest even more (is that possible?) and proclaim Petco Park as “their house” before they bump into you, spill your beer, and then ask, “you got a problem, bro?”

No fucking thanks.


That’s the nail on the head. Dodgers fans are unbearable typically. Dodgers fans fresh off a World Series? I can’t imagine. Gross.

I suppose its not that I hate St. Louis. The fans I’ve interacted with have been great actually. I’m just sick of them.


I didn’t even think of this, AJM. I only made it out to a handful of games this season. And, if the Dodgers win, I’ll may not make it out to any next season, just because the Dodgers “fans” will become the new dickhats.

And I hate dickhats.

Vocal Minority (Nate)

I’m definitely on the side of the Cardinals. They may not be fun to root for because of their fans and media, and I hate that they beat up on the Padres, but they are such a well-run franchise that given their opponent, it’s an easy choice.

They’re the perfect blend of spending (but not over-spending), making smart trades, and developing their own players. It’s really amazing just how smart they are. I’d say that someone should write a book about it, but that would just be more fodder for The Cardinal Way and Baseball’s Best Fans.

If you haven’t passed out yet, pull up a stool and let’s shoot the shit…

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  • GoldenBoy

    There’s no small market team left, so there’s no one left to cheer for. This is twisted & kinda sad, but I actually want the Dodgers to win the World Series. If they win it all, they can’t possibly sign or trade for another All Star. I want the Padres to have a chance for the division next year, so I’ll be hoping that Dodgers get their b.s. out their system this year. Cause if they lose in the playoffs, you know they’ll be going after Price, Scherzer or Cano, and that will just be disgusting.

    • Nothing will stop the Dodgers from continuing to spend money. Nothing. Ever.

  • USMC53

    Cardinals, no question. The Dodgers have an exciting team, and I can see why LA is amped about them, but they are the Evil Empire of the NL, pure and simple.
    How can you not root for a couple of rookies like Joe Kelly and Michael Wacha to take down Greinke and Kershaw, and for Wainwright to go into Dodger Stadium and silence that place in Game 3, and for unsung guys like Carpenter and Kozma to beat the billion dollar superstars that Ned Colleti bought up?
    Plus, as a bit of a baseball purist, I appreciate the whole “Cardinal Way” thing, even if it gets old hearing the media slobber about it. The proof is in the pudding; the Cardinal Way certainly seems to exist, and it churns out a winner year after year. No Padres? No Pirates? Go Cards.

  • Mike

    If the Dodgers were to win it all, then we’d have Giants one year, Dodgers the next. That would be just horrible. The least offensive order of winning would be

    Tigers (eh)

    Red Sox (eh)

    Cardinals (ugh)
    Dodgers (double ugh)

  • Tom Waits

    Padre bloggers cheer riotously for Cardinals.

    Cardinal bloggers invite Padre bloggers to St. Louis in appreciation.

    SD contingent brings a lot of SD beer, possibly requiring a semi and a black Trans Am.

    Cardinal staffer attends SD-STL blogger summit.

    Cardinal staffer, accustomed to drinking Budweiser, gets snackered.

    Drunken Cardinal staffer reveals the secret of developing young pitchers who make an immediate major league impact and don’t get hurt.

    The Cards bug me mostly because they were the self-appointed Play The Game The Right way police before the Braves turned their amps to 11. But you can’t help appreciating the way they make smart FA moves, the way they don’t cry poor, and especially the way they handle young pitchers. Even when they do get hurt, Mozeliak just sends out to the warehouse. “Hey, the copier needs toner and while you’re at it bring back another sixer of hard-throwing 22 year olds.”

    • I wouldn’t say we “cheer riotously.” Other than that, I’m okay with this. Especially the Smokey & the Bandit pull.

      • Tom Waits

        I’m not suggesting you HAVE cheered riotously. I’m suggesting you cheer riotously from this point forward, thereby triggering my complicated but still foolproof plan.

        Dibs on Sally Field circa 1977.