The Padres Trade Jedd Gyorko and Everything You Love Will Die

Ken Rosenthal reported Saturday on this offseason plan for the Padres.

Traditionally, because gathering resources is difficult, teams try to focus on acquiring players that complement a team expected to win, or they try to use remaining resources of a bad to acquire players for the future. This is an oversimplification of course, but it’s generally true that focusing priorities into one area helps from being spread too thin everywhere.

The Padres, according to Rosenthal are trying to do both: acquire assets to compete in the future, while simultaneously turning a team with 71 context neutral wins (known as baseruns) the previous season into a winner. And also, they want to spend less money in the process.

In case my skepticism isn’t yet apparent, let me be explicit: I’m skeptical of such a plan. It sounds like the plan an ownership group with high ambition, but little patience or baseball operations experience would think is a good idea. Here’s Peter Seidler in July: “We think we’re smarter to put all of our energy into competing year after year after year.”

Ownership might be especially willing to agree to that plan if promised by a young, brazen general manager looking to make good on what were likely similarly risky promises made a year before. Sounds great as a plan, but is also difficult to pull off in reality.

How’s the plan so far?

As Rosenthal explained, the model for the offseason was the Craig Kimbrel trade. Kimbrel, one of if not the best closers in baseball, would often go long stretches without an appearance for the Padres. He had no business playing for a team with 71 context neutral wins, and was traded for a strong package of young talent including Manuel Margot (see Dustin’s writeup) from the Red Sox.

Something similar can be said for the Padres trade of Joaquin Benoit (see Dustin again). Although the prospect return wasn’t nearly as valuable, Benoit doesn’t have the pedigree, nor the years of control of Kimbrel. Enyel De Los Santos might be nothing, but he might also go on to be a useful player, on the cheap. If you scout not-terribly and collect enough of those players, you can build a useful core without breaking the bank.

It’s easy to see how the Kimbrel and Benoit trades fit Rosenthal’s model: the Padres strongly improved their farm system that had been raided the previous offseason, saved money, and gave up a guy who pitched a few innings every week. If the Padres wind up with a great team and lackluster bullpen, that’s a fixable problem. And to his credit, AJ Preller has already began collecting what may be useful bullpen arms on the cheap to fill things out. So far, so good.

Which brings us to Jedd Gyorko

Tuesday, the Padres traded second/third baseman Jedd Gyorko to the St. Louis Cardinals for centerfielder Jon Jay.

As for Jay, he has a reputation as a strong defensive centerfielder, though in a large career sample size Ultimate Zone Rating has more confidence in his defense than Defensive Runs Saved does, the latter of which measures Jay as merely an average defender. Jay had offseason wrist surgery last year, so an opinion on how he compares to current Padres Travis Jankowski likely hinges on whether he’s fully healed. Here’s a comparison of their 2016 Steamer projections, courtesy of Fangraphs:

Travis Jankowski .259 .313 .348 86 $0.5* million
Jon Jay .266 .337 .359 93 $6.2 million


Steamer may not be be picking up on Jay’s injury issues last season, so suppose it is under forecasting Jay based on injury problems in 2014, not performance problems. Even still, one probably prefers the lefty Jay to the lefty Jankowski, but it might be a closer competition than at first glance. Since Jay is a free agent in 2017, what you get is somewhere between a slight and, we’ll say, medium one year upgrade to Jankowski. That’s in exchange for $5.8 million extra, and of course the services of Jedd Gyorko. Which finally actually brings us to Jedd.

A somewhat polarizing figure, I’ve long argued for Jedd’s value based on his upside power potential, strong batted ball velocity, and ability to hold his own at second base. It’s the power that makes him valuable. As one of three second/third baseman in a flexible 2015 infield, Gyorko faced competition from both Yangervis Solarte and Cory Spangenberg. To their credit, both put together fine seasons, enough so that the team will likely award the starting second base job to Cory Spangenberg with Gyorko out of the picture.

I still prefer Jedd. His upside of high power potential from a middle infield spot is what gets me. That’s the problem–while Solarte and Spangenberg deliver less promise, they did deliver more consistent performance this year, in the real world. Throw in Gyorko’s awful start which clouded his performance on the season, and you and understand why people were down on him. Here’s why I stuck with him all year:

Jedd Gyorko, 2nd Half of 2015 0.259 0.299 0.440 104

That’s the player I think he can be. I don’t think it’s out of the question, because he’s been that player. While he appears to have trouble against righties, that stat line above includes them. That’s how good he was. As a fan of a team consistently devoid of stars, a potential one he makes me flutter. I’m not willing to give up so easily.

The other issue is Gyorko’s contract. He’s owed $4 million in 2016, and a total of $33 million through 2019. I argued in August, and Jeff Sanders of the UT shared a similar line of thinking, that his is still a very reasonable contract.

If the Padres can’t afford a deal like that they have bigger problems. As long as baseball is still a popular sport that cable companies value the rights to tremendously, prices will keep rising, making the money owed Gyorko down the road more reasonable. This isn’t just pitchers. 35 year old Ben Zobrist just got $56 million from the Cubs. Hell, the Cardinals, the team who have apparently hacked baseball, were willing to give up Jay and pay Gyorko $26 million to apparently use him as a backup. Like the Padres, they already have an infield in place, but find Gyorko’s versatility valuable.

Back to the plan

If you’re building for the future, Gyorko’s the one you want, not a year of Jay. But for an ownership group and general manager already committed to the short term, they took the bird in the hand instead. And the extra money in the hand, as the Padres’ payroll flexibility is hampered by Melvin Upton’s contract (which the team nicely parlayed into two+ solid prospects), James Shields‘ contract, and Matt Kemp‘s (which the team parlayed into a pile of broken down hip cartilage). I pray they use that money to find a shortstop, because three years is a long time for a Major League Baseball team to go without one.

I’m skeptical, which I think is reasonable after watching the team mortgage its future for 2015. After this move, we’ll see how the plan plays out. It’s hard to be sure about things with AJ Preller at the helm, but I’m as sure as I think is possible he isn’t done yet.

Update: Originally I had Gyorko’s 2nd half numbers higher than they were. Thanks to Joe G on Twitter for pointing that out.

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  • Pat

    So if Gyorko hits like that he’s still a poor defender, and average at best on the bases. Spangenberg has hit that well, looks to be better in the field, and is above average on the bases. Good luck to Jedd, except when he plays us.

    • Sac Bunt Chris

      I’m not sure why I didn’t mention it in the article, but Gyorko grades out at about average as a defender by the numbers. Spangenberg doesn’t have enough time for them to be worth much, but you have to find it interesting the Padres chose Gyorko over Spangenberg to try at short. Scouting reports on Spang’s defense in the minors weren’t great.

      • GT500KR

        It doesn’t necessarily mean anything except that Preller had already decided that Spang would be his 2b in 2016. If you’ve made that pick, then you treat Gyorko like a utility player. You also plant stories in the media about how Gyorko “didn’t embarrass himself” at short, which is true if “didn’t embarrass” means “didn’t fall on his butt and throw a tantrum.”

      • Pat

        They also “tried” Middlebrooks at short. 🙂 I feel quite comfortable predicting Spangenberg to be the better defender and baserunner over the course of their careers, barring injury, of course.

  • Len Gutman

    While I agree a team must either build for now or build for the future via trades and free agency, there is a third way — lose a crap load of games for a decade and draft smartly. In baseball it’s not as pronounced as in the NFL or the NBA, but if you’re going to lose you might as well lose big. As a fan of the Phoenix Suns I can tell you it sucks to draft at the bottom of the lottery year after year — you never get the franchise changing players picking 13th.

    In baseball the obvious example are the Kansas City Royals, who for the most part parlayed futility into a championship through year after year of high draft picks (and a few smart trades). The Astros have done the same. The Cubs to some extent. The Mets.

    The question you gotta ask yourself is, is it tenable to continually finish third in the division, or is it better to lose 100 games for a few years in order to stockpile significant talent? When I look around the league and see where the Astros and Royals are today I am jealous, of course I didn’t have to suffer through all that losing. The Braves are an interesting case study as well. Their current fire sale looks awful today, but they are probably going to be back in contention in 2-3 years given all the young talent they are stockpiling.

    Either way, I sure don’t like the schizophrenia I’m seeing from Los Padres.

    • Sac Bunt Chris

      Put another way: is losing 66 games really that much worse than losing 76?

  • BrendaMK58

    This could have been an intelligent article if I hadn’t been rolling my eyes at the grade school grammar mistakes. For God sakes, writers, (especially professional or public) should STOP depending on ‘spell check’ to do your job for you! If we can take the time to read this, then surely YOU can too… each word, each sentence thoroughly, without skimming.
    Other than that I agree with the analysis for the most part.

    • Sac Bunt Chris

      Proofreading your own work is extremely difficult. If you want to be helpful, feel free to point them out so I can correct them.

  • ballybunion

    One little point: Jay had wrist surgery between the 2014 and 2015 seasons, so this last season he was suffering from tendinitis in the wrist, a common after effect of the surgery. He was on the DL for two weeks in May, and spent the whole month of August on the DL, with limited playing time in September. He was rusty, but reportedly no longer in pain. It might not be a good idea to include 2015 stats, and his Baseball-Reference projections apparently don’t, heavily weighting the previous five years, when he was very consistent with the bat. He’s a free agent after 2016, but that’s apparently all the time Margot needs before taking over CF.

  • KC

    You present a logical, cogent argument for your position, Chris. The problem is, you have to look at Jedd’s numbers over the entire season, not just the second half. If you’re using that logic, you can say Matt Kemp’s contract is a great value because of his hot final 2 months or that Chase Headley is worth $20 million a year because of what he did in the second half of 2012.
    Didn’t we hear people say last winter that because of Gyorko’s great second half of 2014 that he had “finally put it all together?” Yet, 2015 was the second straight year that Gyorko had a horrific start and rebounded at the end to have a decent year. In reality, his 2015 start was so bad he was sent to the minors for a stretch. He certainly had a nice run at the end, but given the experience of 2014, I see no reason why we should anticipate that the final numbers for 2016 would be any better than 2014 or 2015.
    I would argue that Spangenberg has considerably more upside than Gyorko in every offensive category except power. And I’d like to think that the Padres can apply the $3.5 million difference in salaries between the two this year and Gyorko’s guaranteed $29 million from 2017-2019 toward a more pressing need — like obtaining a major-league quality shortstop.
    Like you, I’m skeptical of the rebuild-while-still-competing approach (especially in light of what NL West rivals are doing), but I think the Jay/Gyroko deal will prove to be an overall plus for the Padres.