It’s been quite a while since anyone around here broke down a Bill Center chat. And, seeing as how I had some time this afternoon, I figured I’d give it a shot.
All the quotes are in their original form. Nothing has been corrected, added, or otherwise modified. My commentary is in italics.
Well, maybe enjoy is the wrong word…
What are realistic trade opprotunities for the Padres? Are we going to actually make a move this year?
I think the Padres trade thoughts are on hold given recent events. Are they truly a contender in the National League West. Does one or two players make them a contender. Might they actually be sellers rather than buyers when we get close to the July 31 deadline. They won’t be buyers if this slump continues. And other teams might be interested in Volquez, Marquis, Street and Quentin
Bill, now that the Padres have hit their worst skid of the year does the front office still see them as being buyers or sellers?
To go into more detail from the last answer, I’m sure general manager Josh Byrnes is studying that issue as we speak. Right now, I think the Padres need help in the bullpen as well as the rotation. The offense has looked better than this current slump. But if the pitching doesn’t get better and the Padres healthier, it’s not going to work even if you add a player or two.
Hey Bill, question… I love Mark Kotsay but defensively he is not a liability and he is hitting under the Mendoza line. What about releasing him but keeping him on as a coach or putting him on the 60 day DL to keep him in the clubhouse?
I too love Mark Kotsay. Quality individual. But he is nearing the end of his career. He is better than his current marks. But I think the Padres are facing some tough decisions given the spots they will need to find as players get healthy. Truth is, a player on the 60-day disabled list doesn’t carry much cache in the clubhouse when it comes to a leadership role. A player on the disabled list is a little bit in exile. Hard to lead from that spot. And the Padres can’t add a coach under major league guidelines.
any update on Hunter Renfroe signing
They were giving him some time to unwind after the College World Series. It will happen.
Bill when does Leubke return?
He will not be back until Sept. 1. His rehab has been slowed twice when he has been shut down from his throwing program due to discomfort in the elbow. Not unusual. Joe Wieland should return first, around mid-August
Chris in Leucadia (is kind of dick, part 1):
Time to open up the store! Volquez has been pitching well; move him to a pitching-needy contender for present or future bullpen help. Put Kotsay (the T Gwynn statue has more range) and Guzman (belongs in the AL, or PCL) on the buy one, get one free rack for a single A prospect or DFA altogether. Move Marquis while you’re at it and see if anyone needing a 4th OF wants Venable and his runs-into-one-every-once-in-awhile- power. There is no reason whatsover this team should be thinking about offering prospects from a supposedly strong farm system for Garza or Nolasco or whomever (although I’m sure the Cubs would happily take Gyorko for Garza). The charade is over-in a very winnable division, this is a team with some good altogether pieces but way too many pitching holes and inconsistent contributors. Highly ironic that a team that has found a way to hit (although not this week) can’t pitch anymore, especially in the bullpen. Finally, take a look at Byrnes, too-he’s a leftover from the Moorad regime, and maybe it’s time to ask if he has any idea whatsoever on how to build a pitching staff-he clearly can’t find a Scott Linebrink or Mike Adams from out of nowhere the way his predecessors used to. But hey, at least Taco Tuesday is coming, because God knows it’s hard to find cheap tacos in San Diego!
This can only be labeled one thing — R-A-N-T!!~
“Guest” asks the unofficial question of the day:
After this current meltdown do the Padres consider themselves sellers?
I think they are on the bubble right now. Another week like this past one and they are sellers
Bill, thanks as always for the chats. Always lots of great questions asked. So we get Cabrera back today, how long for Gyorko and Yonder?
Alonso hasn’t started a rehab assignment yet, so I’m thinking July 8 isn’t going to happen. I’m beginning to think both might not be back before the All-Star break.
what do we do about starting pitching? it’s been terrible lately
I’m not sure who “we” are, but SezBill answers anyway.
I think a lot depends on this next week at home to end the first half. If they have a winning homestand and are within three or four games of the lead, they might try to supplement. But if they slip farther, they might look to move Volquez (free agent at the end of the year) and Marquis and take a look at some of their younger arms.
Well, it was a fun couple weeks but with Dodgers on the rise and Headley in a free fall, is this team still looking for SPs? Hitting has disappeared, relievers have been terrible, starters not much better.
A correct assessment RANT!
will the team start winning again or will this get any worse?
What happened to “we”?
I don’t think it can get much worse
Why is Jaff Decker still on the 40 man? Do you see him ever being more a fourth or fifth MLB outfielder? I see him as a 4A guy.
I never expected the Padres to contend this year and I happen to think we have been playing above our heads for a while now. I hope the Padres don’t mortgage their future on a rental with the influx of talent we have coming up later this year and next, especially in the rotation. I would gladly sell off Marquis, Quentin, Street, Stults and Volquez this month to build even more for the future. Your thoughts?
I tend to agree. But Quentin has a no-trade contract. The right deal has to be struck with an American League team needing a DH with Quentin understanding that the DH is the way to go to extend his career. He is still dangerous with the bat. THAT SAID — Wouldn’t it be terrible to trade Quentin and have the National League add the DH this winter. It’s a somewhat remote possibility
DH in the National League? Nooooooooooooooo!
billyk yet again:
how close were we from landing Jake Arrieta before the cubs got him?
There’s that “we” again…
Billy K. why’d you habve to bring this one up. I really wanted Jake Arrieta. So did Byrnes. I know the Padres and Orioles had talked. Orioles might not have liked what they saw from Bass and Volquez, two players they were scouting. Saw both at bad times
Yet another “Guest”:
Latest on garza?
And here’s Mac, asking my favorite question today:
How long will FOX Sports continue to have Mike Pomeranz fill in for Dick Enberg? Nice guy and all, but he is just not play by play material. They should have stuck with Andy Masur as backup like they did last year.
Seriously? He’s the Padres beat writer, not the Fox Sports San Diego beat writer. And Dick’s been back since Boston.
Excellent point. I don’t think they expected Dick to miss as much time as he recently has.
Holy crap, there’s a lot of “Guests” in this thing.
Do you get the feeling that the opposing team is relieved when our “cleanup” hitter Chase Headley comes up with his 220 average and 20-something rbi total?
Honestly, yes — given the way Headley is slumping
Despite the recent struggles, the Pads have only lost two games in the standings, and sit 4.5 out of first. Doesn’t that mean this division is there for the taking, and push the front office towards being buyers?
They have lost only two games to the Diamondbacks. They have lost seven to the Dodgers, who have emerged as the team to beat. The Padres now have three and possibly four teams to climb over. I’m not sure it’s there for their taking
Another Guest? Use a username, jerks.
What’s the latest on gyorko?
The groin is still tender. He is with the Padres in Washington. Not sure if they need to send him out on a rehab again.
Seriously, who’s groin isn’t tender?
Stop it with the Guest questions.
Is there still interest in nolasco for the padres?
Like I’ve said today, I imagine they are studying and re-evaluating their buyer-seller position. Not sure they are going to gamble a lot right not on a pitcher who can walk at the end of the season/.
How long will Bud Black ride with Headley in the 3, now 4 spot in the lineup? It was less of a problem when other people around him hit, but his .236 RISP and .176 RISP w/ 2 Outs is more of an issue when no one is picking him up
Know who they miss — a hot Grandal or a healthy Alonso in the No. 5 slot. Pitchers really working Headley and Blanks over in the Nos. 4 and 5 slots right now. I’d be tempted to move Headley into the No. 2 slot and hit Blanks third. Forsythe and Denorfia also in major slumps
Do you believe the cause of the bullpen problems is over work, or something else?
Overwork has something to do with it. Gregerson looks tired like he did in 2011. His slider is sharp one day and not the next. Problem is, it seems like Thayer, Gregerson or Street is off in every game. The Padres haven’t been able to sweep through a game using all three without one getting into major trouble in weeks.
Are we gonna b sellers or buyers. I still think we have a chance of contention and If I was management I wouldn’t write the season off.
I wouldn’t either, unless the Padres had one more week like last week and found themselves seven or eight out at the All-Star break. There will 72 games to go after the break. If they are 7-8 games out and in fourth or fifth, that would represent a huge turn-around to get back into contention. I’d be a lot more hawkish if they were also closer in the wild-card race
The padres have less than ten days to sign Renfroe, if he was going to sign, it should have happened. Is he taking the same approach as the USD kid, Bryant?
Remember, Renfoe was at the College World Series. So the clock hasn’t beern running as long as it has on Bryant. No need to panic
Is Byrnes safe as GM?
What is the ETA on Donn Roach?
Donn Roach is not pitching as well as the Padres expected this season. The Matts — Andriese and Wisler — now appear closer to the Padres than Roach
Any insight into my struggles? Am I injured, tired, distracted or simply pressing to fill gaps from all of the other player injuries? All of the above? Seems like I’m living up to my first name when it comes to pitches out of the zone and even when I get good wood on something, I hit it right at a defender. Should Buddy sit me for a few games prior to the ASB so I can get my groove back?
Lamest attempt of a parody account ever.
I think all of the above. Early in his plunge, Headley was hitting the ball hard at defenders. Then he was pressing a bit. Right now, I think his game is off offensively. Pitchers are working him over pretty good. I’d let him play a few games at the second spot in the order when Cabrera returns.
Lightning in a bottle:
On the bright side, seems like Byrnes and team are continuing to do a great job with building a solid foundation of players in the minors and are signing one of the top International players. Any other international signings to look forward to? Are the Padres players in any of the other “top 10” (Mayky Perez being #9 according to MLB.com)?
I know Randy Smith was high on two and maybe three players this year.
I think Headley is similar in mental make-up to Ryan Ludwick, performs best when expectations are low, tightens up and under-performs when expectations are raised. His history suggests he is not a player who can carry a pennant contender on his back. Nothing against him personally, that type of elite player are few in number.
Interesting analysis. The Padres were not in a pennant race last year, but Headley stepped up when there was no Quentin to protect him. I am surprised about what has happened this season. this first half has been below his previous first halves. He could always hit for average with a high on-base percentage.
Leroy from Phoenix, OR:
I suppose the silver lining here is that we’re talking about the Padres potentially being buyers for the first time a while. But that brings up a question. More often than not, around this time of year the Padres go into selling mode, move a couple of their better players and get back a bushel of prospects who never seem to quite materialize. What in your opinion has been the missing ingredient? Or, are the Pads simple as bad at mid-season trades as they have been at the draft?
well, the current front office regime has not made that many trades at the deadline, so is no book on what they might do.
Seems like management has written this year off as far as making the playoffs, correct? No player moves, correct? None coming, correct? Taco Tuesdays, correct? Content tummies keeps everyone happy, correct?
Few teams have made any trades yet. I don’t think this season is written off. But I do think they are taking a closer look as to where they are before deciding to buy or sell
Diehard Pad Fan:
So….have the “buyers” suddenly became “sellers”? Just askin’
How many times are these guys going to ask the same question?
I am debating the same question in my head. They are close to the top in the division in terms of game behind the leader. But they have to jump four teams and aren’t close in the wild card race. Too many cards not showing right now to say “all in.”
Tell Brynes and management I will not be attending any more games until they go out and get a good bonafide starting pitcher
I can’t begin to tell you how dumb this statement is.
I’ll be sure to pass that along. Wait, you already did.
Oh, never mind. I think SezBill just did it for me.
OH FOR THE LOVE OF JEBUS!
How much do you think this slump has cost Headley?
A bundle. Even teams who were very interested in him have to be wondering what is going on. One thing that has remained consistent is his work ethic and defense
Obviously a lot goes into a streak like this but the most glaring thing is Chase Headley. When the team is struggling to score runs the 3-4 hitters have to produce, Quentin is hitting but Chase of course is not. In fact Chase never hits when something is on the line, he gets hits in blowout games and has good months when the Padres are 20 games below 500. Do you think it’s a coincidence that the Padres have had no shot at making the playoffs the last 3 years while they relied on Headley to produce?
There were bigger holes in the Padres than Headley.
Burn on your stupid, long, rambling question.
I Heart Megan Olivi:
Now that the fences have been moved, what’s the word on the new HD scoreboard?
What? Like SezBill is going to know.
Could be this winter or the next. Last I heard, the Padres hadn’t decided when to putt the trigger on that project
See? Told you.
Bill, can you explain the rationale for not making foreign players like Puig enter the amateur draft? Why are they treated differently from high school and college players?
Because major league baseball has agreements with foreign associations that they count upon and must be re-negotiated before there is an amateur draft.
Chris in Leucadia (is kind of a dick, part 2):
Watching Quentin break into a slide is like watching a car run a red light; you hold your breath waiting to see a horrific impact.
That’s not a question.
I’m right there with you
Shoot me now. It’s another…
Do you ever see Burch Smith being a top of the rotation pitcher? I have heard he does not have very good feet
Ahh, OK. Top of the rotation?Not sure I’d rank him ahead of Cashner, Wisler or Fried. But I think he’s a major league starter.
I think SezBill was thrown off by Rex Ryan‘s question…
Vinter from the Cellar:
If this slide continues, is there someone in the minors we can expect to see and are they a fine vintage, a merlot or a 2 buck chuck from the cellar?
Wisler and maybe Andriese. I like a lot of their younger pitchers.
Leroy from Phoenix, OR:
I don’t think the possibility of the DH coming to the NL is any reason to keep Quentin. DHing or not, Quentin is still the only guy around who could hurt his knees eating a sandwich.
I like that sandwich crack. I’m stealing it.
Knees have done well recently. It’s been his left shoulder
I think that SD should not trade their prospects, and regarding their status as sellers or buyers, they could be both. They could trade Quentin (they have Blanks), Volquez & Marquis (they hace prospects almost ready.. Burch Smith, Matt Andriese, Keivius Sampson, Matt Wisler, Robbie Erlin, to go along with Tim Stauffer & Joe Wieland), Huston Street (they have arms in AAA like Brad Brach, Miles Mikolas, Brad Boxenberg, Kevin Quakenbuch, etc). So why not trade these players who are expensive for younger player that might not have the same experience, but are almost MLB ready and could develop and contribute.
The team needs to consider trading Caberra(drug allegations, scott boras his agent now, will want big money, contract up at end of season)will that be given consideration?
Nick Canepa? Is that you?
Not until they find another shortstop. We just saw what can happen without Cabrera.
I hope the FO stays the course. There are good elements to this team, particularly the infield (plus Blanks, wherever he plays) but the pitching isn’t good with too many holes to try and patch. Recognize that this year’s team isn’t a playoff team, trade away any contracts that will hurt in the future, trade for prospects if you can, and wait for the good young pitchers to come up next year and the year after. This will be a good team in ’14 and maybe a real good team in ’15…
OK, a RANT with a long-term view
Bill-why do people talk about the return of Luebke as if he is the second coming of Sandy Kofax? He has a very limited experience in the majors yet there are those that seem to think that he is the #1 pitcher that the padres need. I think with his surgery and minimal MLB time he should still be considered a prospect. maybe after a couple of successful seasons he can be considered a top quality starter.
I agree, but at the same time I was very impressed with how he was pitching at the start of last season. There were scouts who believed Luebke was already the ace of the Padres staff before he was hurt.
It’s not funny anymore…
Bill, we are lacking the big consistent bat. We need a 25 plus HR guy in the lineup that produces year in and year out. Any chance Padres wise up and make that happen.
Well, they thought they had those guys in Headley and Quentin
Hey look at our new fences! Hey look at the guy we “want” to sign to a long term deal mid-season! Hey look at all the walk off HRs! Exciting baseball! Fowler and Company know San Diego! Look at our Fedoras! Look at your free Padres smartphone cover! Kids Jumpers in the outfield! Aint it great!
And No-Dog returns . . .
I’m in ;ate but here goes. Rivera, Hynes and Anna are AAA all stars yet they don’t figure long term. Why not? They can’t be much worse than we have now.
Not in the immediate future. None of the three are on the 40-man roster. I don’t see Rivera making it. Anna is older and viewed as a 4-A player. The one who could get a shot is left-handed reliever Hynes.
The front office is in a tough spot trying to decide whether to buy or sell and might need to take a middle of the road approach with deals that can still help the team in upcoming years. I saw ESPN.com trade propositions about combinations of Erlin and Sampson or Wisler for guys like Nolasco and Garza that made me cringe. I wouldn’t target high-priced guys that will walk at the end of the year. An interesting name for me was Bud Norris, who supposedly wants to return home to California, makes $3M this year, and should pitch better in PETCO than his current home stadium bandbox.
I am not giving up the players that Miami or the Astros want. But I would put Norrie ahead of Nolasco on ,my wish list.
Chris in Leucadia (is kind of a dick, part 3):
I just realized Taco Tuesday will launch on Social Media Tuesday! OMG the heads on the FSSD Spokesmodels will explode!Oh, the humanity!
I know this is trite . . . but LOL
Quit being such a dick, Chris in Leucadia.
Not that we miss him, but what’s the word on Richards. Personally, stick him in the pen, keep Erlin in rotation, think they’re better off.
Richard is still on the disabled list. Don’t expect to see him before much later this month.
What trade value do Edinson and Marquis have?
With both being free agents at the end of the season, maybe each would bring a top prospect who has issues or a second-echelon prospect or two. You are not going to get a future No. 1 starter for either
Chris in Leucadia (is kind of a dick, part 4):
Does Reymond Fuentes have a future in SD, or is he just the last piece that shows the Gonzalez trade was a disaster?
Seriously, quit it, Chris in Leucadia.
Well, Andrew Cashner is a result of that trade. And Casey Kelly (Tommy John surgery) still has the credentials to be a major league starter. Fuentes has really stepped it up this season at Double-a sAN Antonio. Far ahead of where he was a year ago.
Chase Headley has to be cognizant to the fact that in this day and age people will start (if they haven’t already) that maybe he had some “help” last year fairly or not.
And that would be horribly unfair. Few people I’ve met have stronger feelings about drugs and PEDs in baseball than chase.
Pads win the West!:
I know it’s within the division but has there been any talk about the Pads trading for Ethier for Gregerson while Dodgers eat half of Ethiers contract?
:: spits out his beer all over his laptop ::
Haven’t heard that one
Seems like Nick Vincent is performing above expectations. Does the FO feel like he could be a viable Gregerson replacement? Maybe we should give him some 8th inning experience to see?
Too small a sample size to say he’s a Gregerson replacement. The problem with Gregerson is that his stuff has been very hot-and-cold this season — great one outing (the strikeout of Michael Young) and horrible the next (the recent home run pitches to Dominic Brown and Jonny Gomes)
Who has the most power potential in the farm system?
What is the deal with Enberg missing so many games this season?
Been a mixture of personal (daughter’s wedding, son’s serious and sudden illness) and professional (honored at Wimbledon)
We dont need to buy a bat with gyorko and alonso coming back to the lineup soon. What we need desperately are some arms in the bullpen. I like gregerson but hes been scuffing at times. Thayer hasnt been that good and we dont even have a sure closers.Too many soft tossers. Starting pitchers are too costly so I dont think we can do much there
Any update on Maybin’s return?
I’d say a month away at least
A note of encouragement. Your minor league reports are just great. I feel cheated when I don’t get my daily report. Please keep it going. thanks.
The daily minor league reports are now part of the Daily Update.
Once again, Venable disappears for long periods of time, even when he’s in the lineup. With Denorfia struggling, too, can there be any doubt the RF platoon was/is/is not going to be answer. BTW, any unreported injuries going on?
The Padres honestly said that Venable missed three games with a sore hamstring. There are always injuries that go unreported. That’s why when you are in the clubhouse you are always looking for who is wearing ice and where. Players suffer a lot more minor injuries than they and the club let on.
Bill, can you stop fat-fingering the keyboard?
Was having a bad typing day early on. Try to go as fast as possible to answer as many as possible
Any interest in Jeff Francoeur since he recently cleared waivers? Could provide OF depth for cheap
There is a reason why Francoeur cleared waivers. He’s not the player he was. The Padres have plenty of outfield depth. They could use a bonafide every day hitter
Any chance we see Fuentes or Cody Decker this year?
I’d say the chances are slim right now. Neither are on the 40-man roster right now. And the Padres will still need to find openings later for Cory Luebke and Joe Wieland. That could change if they move the likes of Volquez and Marquis for prospects
History will show last year was Headley’s career year. I would recommend selling high and quickly!
I don’t think you can sell Headley high/quickly right now
We need to trade Gregerson as opposed to Street. We will probably get more in return, plus … I just got this Street jersey.
I take it back. THIS is the lamest attempt at a parody account ever.
That would taint one’s views. Are you able to wear it in public?
With these outrageous prices for Garza, Nolasco, etc, Pads would definitely be better off selling. Our rotation is not ready for a playoff series. Dodgers, as tough as it is for me to say this, look like they will take this over and they have the money to throw out to beat anyone. BTW, are they throwing in $1 Wed hot dogs too?
Like it. Not heard anything about $1 hot dogs.
Nobody has heard anything about the $1 hot dogs, because they Padres are not doing $1 Wed hot dogs. Pay attention, people!
I’ve been a Dodger hater since 1956 when they edged out my Milwaukee Braves to win the NL pennant so I’m not an objective person but I hope that Yasiel Puig isn’t named to the all-star team on the basis of one good (great) month.
To me, he’s the most exciting player in the game at the moment. I wouldn’t mind seeing him go as a bench player. But the Braves got even in ’57 and ’58. Go Lew Burdette! And by the way, would Hurricane Hazle been an All-Star
So frustrating that this team will probably now, become sellers, because guys on the DL are taking longer than usual to get back…by the time Alonso/Gyrko make it back, Byrnes will be looking to clean house. I just wonder if “selling” was in the works all along…and has anyone put out an APB on Headley, for Satan’s sake?!
Interesting take. I would say Gyorko tried to return too soon. As for Alonso, it’s hard to swing the bat with a broken bone in your hand
Chris in Leucadia (is kind of a dick, part 5):
Two Up/Two Down: Too Annoying, Too Stupid-please pull rank and make it stop!
Honestly, I agree. Not my thing. But not my decision
I guess he wasn’t as much of a dick this time.
Seriously, if gyorko comes back, where does forsythe play? Isnt it better to trade headley, put gyorko at third and play forsythe second?
But you are not going to get true value for Headley right now. Never good to trade a slumping player who has credentials
I dont know why people have so much problem with puig being an allstar. Theres reason people vote on allstars. It’s popularity contest. I wouldnt give rookie of the year based on one good month. But allstar game why not?
I agree. Best players at that moment and time
Bill, a couple of times you have mentioned that the Padres don’t view Anna as a major leaguer. How does one know for sure until they get a chance? Some players bloom later, or things suddenly click for them. And conversely, look how many times we have seen “can’t miss” players miss in a big way.
I agree with your assessment. Sad thing is that Anna’s not on the 40-man roster, so they haven’t been in position to take a look.
Bill, thanks as always for the chats – could you please have someone fix the issue with reading this on a smartphone. You can only read 3/4’s. ghanks
I meant to ask our IT guy about that last week and forgot. I will drop in on Monday and try to see what the answer might be. I apologize.
Sergio from Tijuana:
How far is Lyriano from playing in the majors? with Venable & Maybin struggling an upgrade at the bat would be well received?
Are you serious? Someone hasn’t been paying attention this year AT ALL! And it’s “Liriano.”
I see him getting a shot in the spring of 2015. He lost more than a year due to Tommy John surgery
And I just heard Sergio from Tijuana’s heart breaking.
Can we just trade Headley, and be done with all the year to year uncertainty that you get with him?…I mean, really now.
So 96 percent of you want Blanks playing every day somewhere. Know what., I agree. I’d like to spend more time with you, but the time has expired. Until next Friday at noon.
So, what have we learned from this? Seriously. What? Because I have no idea.
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